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Extra set of wheels
Hi, I want to buy an extra set of wheels for my Tenere (just for use off-road), and I am looking for advice for rims, spokes and hubs.
Saludos ;-) Jan PS. Sorry for my bad english... |
I might be worng, but Jmo might have a spare set of originals since she fitted some fancy blue rims on her Tenere, I know she put some stuff up for sale but its worth checking if she still has those rims. Send her a pm.
good luck. |
Thanks so much for your info; I will do it ;-)
Gracias Jan |
Nope, they've gone to a new home.... sadly not mine!
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What a pity!!!
So again, Anybody has some advice for my wheels? |
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A set of wheels from Yamaha was quoted at �740 inc vat but not including bearing discs etc Bearings �20ea, Discs Front �140 & rear �90 i'd probably just swap the sprocket over to save cost. The other (cheaper?) option is to get a set built I approched Talon who pointed me toward Central Wheel components. I talked to them at the uk Dirtbike show and they said they could build a set for about �500 if I supplied the hubs which are rear �135 + vat & front �128 + vat from yamaha. A cush drive is about �25 + bearings & discs etc. Hope this helps! Gory |
I spoke to Talon Engineering on the phone today as I'm looking to get a spare set of wheels but an 18" rear. I was told that the rear is available at �400.0 +vat, but they don't have a spec for a direct replacement for the front yet, as JMo used KTM forks on her rally bike build.
I'm not going to be changing forks, but Talon did say that if I send my front wheel to them, they will size it up and see if they can replicate it. Top of the to do list now. |
Gory, is not cheap, but is cheaper than an Akra exhaust and provide much better results off-road. Of course I would prefer to be cheaper, but who said that life is affordable?
Anyway your info is very heplful, I had also think not to have duplicated bearing discs, because they would have to adapt to the pads, and maybe is not a good deal. Grayspeed, I really prefer to maintain 17", because I really don't know how the 18" would affect to the bike driving. Thanks again for your support |
Aside from the costs of the wheel, you are going to have to be carefull when swapping them. Unless you move your rear sprocket you are also looking at a chain and front sprocket set too, and you'll need a second det of brake pads (I would advise some off-road compound - it's much better than the stock stuff, and a bit cheaper too).
You'll realy need to get rid of those footpegs too - they have no controll or grip in the muck. You can get a cheap pair from ebay for around �25 delivered, although they aren't the best quality, but they are very good value for money. Hand guards ? do you have them ? if not you are going to be looking for some spare leavers, or some pivot levers ( www.racefx.co.uk). On balance, for off road riding, why not just add a few more quid and pick up a rough 250/400 bike to ride the trails! The other option is to invest in a tyre changing station at about �500, and swap the tyres as you like! |
I have a new footpegs on my shopping list.
About the handguards I have these... http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/9961/img0204x.jpg You can see that they are not leaver protector, so maybe it could be a good idea to have pivot levers. I have thougt it already, but you know that world can't be conquer in one day, jejeje. Your idea about a more off-ride bike is really good, but from long time ago I love my XT, my Superteneres and now my Tenere, and I don't want to cheat them with anyone ;-). I really love the "trail concept" Thanks so much for your great ideas!!! |
I've been looking a 2nd set of wheels w/o luck so far. I contacted JMo some time ago but they were gone :(
Front: Probably the cheapest solution is to find a 2nd hand enduro/cross front wheel a brembo caliper+cylinder and build some plate to adapt a 320mm disc, for offroad use is more than enough (JMo went with a single 270mm, but I have to agree that the bike was lighter), spacers are cheap to build. Rear: If the XTR rear fits (I don't know), it will be the cheapest way. I fully agree with Gas_Up_Lets_Go that you MUST move the sprocket or have a 2nd chain. But I have to wait a litle, I have a new/used new trial baby on the garage and my pocket is empty. Meanwhile I will keep changing tyres between the syracs and the karoo, I do it myself in about 30minutes. have fun, j. |
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Personally, and for what it's worth etc etc.
I'd just fit a set of Continental TKC80s to the Tenere and be done with it! They last a good long while on the road, are infinitely better than OE boots off-road, and lets' face it, you can buy a lot of tyres for the price of a new set of wheels? The Tenere was made to be used in a dual-purpose role - so it makes perfect sense to me to have some decent dual-purpose tyres fitted? xxx |
Well said JMo
thats the route i will be taking very soon but looking into a cheaper tyre combo if poss I think if you are going to change the wheels either get a proper 18 Rear or why not keep standard wheels for off road and spend your pennies on some SM wheels I dont think its been done on the Ten yet. I want to do it but have not the cash to splash. I think some second hand mag wheels from an aprilia 125 might look the dog,s especially on my black Ten (well it looks the dog,s already):033: |
Putting supermoto wheels on a Tenere? Arghl... no.
However, using two sets of wheels may be a good idea saving tire wear and gas when riding to work every day. BTW due to chassis conversion my stock wheels will soon be available in excellent condition. Including bearings, brake disks, sprocket, whatever washers, anything as needed. As is my complete stock fork assembly with axle, front fender, tow hook, fork shaft, crowns and hexnut, handlebar mounts, lower bearing. Also will sell complete front brake equipment (as one closed part, fully operational, simply install and go). So in case you are still looking for these parts (good as new, 5500km, free of any harm, 100% stock), give me some notice. That stuff will go away around February 2010 probably and I will be happy to get rid of it. Charges will be _slightly_ below Yamaha stock pricing :incon_aargh[1]: :laughing7: However, I have got no clue about shipping cost. Sender location is Germany or Austria, whatever is better. Need to check out in case. As soon as my stuff gets available, I will drop a posting into the marketplace with pictures, prices, warranty clause, insurance, shipping return, special rates, best buy, blabla... Phil (flatboarder(a)gmx.at) |
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About the shipping cost I could pick up either at Germany or Austria. Thanks & best regards |
I said about the supermoto wheels - the reasons being
with Supermoto wheels you have the best option of sticky road tyres.either spokes or better still mag wheels from another bike with spacers to fit. ( saw an awesome KTM with Aprilia Rs 125 wheels) Plus with decent rims and hubs Talon/tagasako etc and an 18 inch rear you have a much better choice of off road rubber. This way you have the best road and best off road handling grip etc available However I think if you are serious about ridding off road then the Ten is not really the best bike to do it on why not have a much smaller lighter bike that can go much further ie Yamaha wr 250 and save the Ten for its intended dual purpose role. ( this is for the average rider and not God's like JMo who have proved the ten can do anything in the right hands):039: |
Hey Jan
I agree with JMo and i have lived it myself. Stick some heavier springs in the front end for a bit better performance on and off road. a pair of TCK 80s and your away. Decent grip both on and off road. I know because i have toured my Tenere around the roads of wales and competed in the Hafren Rally on these tyres. I have drifted, jumped, skidded, riden steep muddy/rocky climbs and hung onto the back of a sports bike on twisty roads. The only area that lacked was the suspension... but thats a whole new area!! With the cash you save, get some pivot pegs and a set of Red & White Acerbis Rally Pro Brush Guards. Then my man, you will have a true Dual purpose Bike. I cant post any images yet but will do just as soon as i can Good Luck Gary |
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I haven't got a tenere yet but already thinking of fitting an 18 inch rear so I can use my part worn Enduro tires when commuting into work. Been reading about the change in gearing and trouble with speedo. Can't think why a bike that will most likely have it's gearing changed should come with a gearbox based speedo!
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Erm, what the speedy desert rallying lady said. What's the point of a dual-sport bike if you need to spend hours in the garage before every trail ride? Maybe it's just me, but most of my trail riding is either opportunistic, or a long way away, or both. In the mean time I have to ride the Tenere to work every day. That said, I'd (again) suggest Mitas E-09's as an alternative to TKC's. The set that's on my bike now are utterly wrecked, but it's taken nearly 5000 miles of fairly aggressive riding to do it. The OE Tourances only lasted 6000, so not a huge difference, esp when the Mitas are cheaper. I also don't think they are noticeably worse on tarmac than the Tourance/Sirac type tyres. I'm doing about 15,000 miles a year, so three sets of tyres, �125 by the time I've had them posted and fitted gives �375. Even if having two sets of wheels saved me a bit on tyres (in return for a lot of messing around) it would take a very long time to pay off. That said, I am tempted by a fork swap and 18" rear conversion, but that's because I'm an inveterate tinkerer :D, not because I think it will help my tyre selection. |
Just for info - I was speaking to Talon the other day, and they said they've had a quite a number of people buying 18" rear wheels for the Tenere now - from all over the world!
I like to think I've given a little bit of blood and sweat to you all (and a few quid to Parcels-to-go in the process of getting the dimensions correct!) Rock on! Jx ps. Now please buy my Dakar supporters package - details to follow shortly x |
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