Tenere fuel capacity (NEC show)
 

Hello everyone

I'm planning to buy a Tenere and went to the bike show at the NEC today to ask about any changes to the 2010 model. Well, they had the 2010 model on display and it is exacctly the same as the 2009. I've no problems with that - I love the bike.

I noticed that in the info on the stand, it said that the tenere has a 15 liter fuel tank. It was my impression from the reviews (MCN) that I have read, that the Tenere has a 22 liter tank and the other 660's have 15 liters. The Yamaha expert shrugged his shoulders and said that the Tenere has always had a 15 liter tank. I didn't want to contradict him but I have read many reviews talking about 250 mile range - I don't see how that's possible with 15 liters(3.3 gallons)

Can anyone enlighten me? Is the Yamaha rep right or have they reduced the fuel tank or have MCN got it wrong?

Thanks, Jim

Confirmed as 23 litres. 15 litres is for the X or R. I just double checked the manual.

That's what I thought. Then the information on the Yamaha stand is wrong - if anyone is going to the show, there is a data sheet in place of the rear number plate stating fuel capacity is 15 liters. The sales guy clearly doesn't know his bikes... somebody better put him right

Cheers, Jim

2 days ago it took me 18L until it was full, and then i still had some liters left

23 litres for sure, room for another 1.5l is you use the air expansion space as well.

I didn't know the Government had reintroduced the YTS!! :pjrlaugh_61OD3G: :box:
Oh well; pay peanuts.........

Further......(and I'm surprised no-one else has said it yet)

If you want info on the new/latest Tenere, XT660.com is the first point of call!!

Unfortunately this is often the case with reps at the NEC show when it comes to Adventure bikes. This guy could probably told you all about the latest FirebladeR1Ninjamejig but when it comes to trailies they're just not interested. A few years ago I tried talking to a guy on the Triumph stand about the Tiger, he started arguing with me and my wife had to pull me away!! I was only saying that the Adventure bike market was going to grow (this was in the days of the MK1 Tiger) but he wouldn't have it!!

How many miles (average road riding) do you get on a 23l tank, poor tank range is the main reason i am getting rid of of the KTM

When ridin� backroads, doin� like 80/90kmh, it'll get you more then 500km's far(1:25 thereabout). On faster highway runs, doin' like 120kmh, less far, like 450km's(1:21 or something). In both cases not completely empty though! That's pretty good fuel economy I'd say!
Greetz, Hans.

With a good mix of riding i normally get 200 miles showing before the fuel trip starts counting... Takes around 16L to top up at this point leaving 6L or 7L in reserve... When i got it i stuck a can on the back and rode till it spluttered and it had about 280 miles on the trip then...

I get around 400km before refilling 20l, and that when not cruising over 4500rpm and taking it easy.

The most I got was 460km I think.

On more spirited rides, I get less range (300km before fuel gauge flashes (after 16.3l since reserve is 6.7l out of 23l)

the fuel gauge is awfully pessimistic and I'm very cautious.

Up to 480km between two stops. 500km would have been possible.
Click
http://images.spritmonitor.de/342352_4.png
for more fuel consumption details.

Cheers guys,
so you could pretty much ride all day without the dreaded orange
light spoiling your fun.
Is the bike harder to control when its full, does it feel top heavy?
(Sorry for hijacking this thread)

TBH the only time I notice the full tank is if I'm pushing the bike around the garage.

Once on the move its fine and not top heavy at all

Pretty much this. I push the bike up a slope every day to get it into the garage. That's harder with a full tank. Actually riding it I can't say I've ever noticed.

It's more noticeable when you try and wheelie the bike with a full tank.
50.7 miles until empty on reserve for me.

I achieved 458km today. (including 100km after the gauge started to flash)
and managed to squeezed 23.3l in the tank at the petrol station

got 330miles (520km) from my last tank, 60 miles (96km) of that on reserve.

i couldn't get any more miles from it - and it seems it takes 24L to fill a tenere tank from absolutely empty, go on - ask me how i know......:laughing5:

Pete.

Did you get to the filling station, empty your tank into the car next to you (because you are such a generous guy) then fill the tank from empty ?


Or, did you fill it with diesel, then empty it, then fill it again...:051:

520km !!!

Wow I'm truly impressed !!!

I usually cruise at 115/120kph / 4500rpm, looks like it's not the best speed/rpm.

I barely get 1L to 19km :(
Don't know why, but it isn't because of my driving style.
The dealer told me it's normal due to the engine getting more power after breaking in ??? (done 4550km so far)

It's 25kw and never got it above the 5500/6000rpm.
I usually shift at 4000.


Hope it will get better in the summer as im going to France.

I only get around 53Mpg (imperial) which seems to be around 18.6kms/litre after I've ran it through a number of fudgefactor convertors. My Bike is now just over 2k miles old (quiet winter due to snow bound garage/road) and oil consumption has been as close to zero as its possible to measure on the dipstick over the last 1000 miles (used a fair bit running in).

So I wouldnt worry at only getting 19km/l , just some are more likely to have a restrained wrist than me../you? Ps urban town use is where its more likely to use more fuel in my experience (probably cos I cant resist a TLGP).

same here: but mine is un-restricted and I do like to keep speeds up!

HJ

To maximize mpg, ride the torque and change up asap with as little throttle as possible. A larger rear sprocket helps no end!

No mate - i opted for the 'realise you've forgotten to fill up, run out completely, then push/paddle it the last couple of miles to the garage at 2 in the morning' approach. It 's an enlightening experience, you should try it!

not put diesel in it yet, but there's time- i do have a diesel car now......

incidentally the tank of fuel i mentioned was a mix of taking it easy in light traffic and wide throttle opening with short gear shifts , works out at 62ish MPG (21ish km/L), have to admit i dont add up the economy too often - i just fill up about 20-30 miles after the f-trip comes on and be happy knowing that no matter what i'm getting at least double the mpg i get in the car (LR discovery).

Pete.

Should label this thread "Witchcraft."
 

I had to post a response, because the fuel tank is one of the two problems with this bike.
I have had this bike for over 6000 miles and I still cant see it being a 23 litre tank.
Recently I have started to pay attention because I had never put in more than 18 litres:

https://www.fuelly.com/driver/scubafrique/xt660z-tenere

There are two distinct fuel economy modes, above and below 5000 rpm, and its easy to do both, and they have a very different effect on fuel economy.
I try to stick to 65mph indicated at seal level which is just under 4000rpm and probably 60mph, in reality its usually 70 Mph indicated and 65mph in reality, this gives me 62 MPG.

The dreaded reserve
This has a life of its own and varies when it comes on depending on the recent riding style.
1)If you're doing a 10 mile commute
It seems to come on for a couple of miles then goes off a few times before it settles down to full time in reserve. This also varies with hills, turns and the colour of the sky that day.
2)When you are on the bike all day
Where it seems to come on and stays on at about 2/3rds of the tank which is infuriating, so you have to stop and switch off the engine, shake the bike three times, offer appropriate abuse to a suitable deity and off you go again.

The most that I have managed to put into the tank was 20.4 litres, giving me a range of 260 miles now that should mean I can do 300 miles, but I am not sure, so i have a 1 litre aluminium camping fuel bottle inside the tractor manual plastic container as a reserve and I am going to ride it till its empty, then see how much I can get in.

The other problem is the *&cking speedo. if anyone knows how to make it tell the speed accurately as well as recording the correct distance, mail me. It drives me nuts that in this day and age the jobs worth gits in manufacturing wont make the speedo read correctly.

Next post to include my alterations.

G

All to bizarre !!!!

Just got back from a Coll and Gorge trip (r x r to follow) 1665kms with 80% of backroads , loads of twisties , and returned 24 kms per lt !!!! someone will no doubt workout the MPG

I can assure you it holds 23L. When I had the fuel pump out a couple of years ago I (obviously) had to completely drain the tank. I remember as clear as day, when I put it back together I put in 5L out of a can, drove 10 miles to fill her up (to the bottom of the filler neck) and she took 19L - a total of 24L. I'd guesstimate that I used just shy of 1L on the trip to the petrol station, so all in all 23L capacity.

Why??:eusa_think:

I've just learned to subtract 10% subconsciously and not to let it bother me. ;)

56.45mpg :rockwoot:

Well, it's up to you to run out of fuel and test the volume of your ten. So, no need to complain about the tank capacitiy.
Definitly. A higher rpm has an effect of your fuel consumption.
Higher rpm => higher fuel consumption.
low rpm => less fuel consumption.
Nothing special here.

That's a funny habit, what's the purpuse behind it?
At least in Germany the speedo may differ up to 10% ahead the real speed. It's for preventing vehicles to run faster than the speedo just reads.

The tank capacity is 23 Ltr but that does not mean you can get 23 Ltr in it.

If you fill up to the bottom of the white filler tube you will not get 20 Ltr in the tank. So you need to spend another 5 mins dripping in the last 2 or so Ltrs.

I have got 22 Ltr's in mine after a 300 mile tank. It's not a great design filler system on the Tenere tank but i fill mine so that the petrol is half way up the white tube.

I commute and use it as a toy offroad at the weekends and i always get 250 miles before Ftrip and then anoterh 50-60 on reserve with a 20 Ltr top up.

I'm regularly getting 64mpg.

But if you ride off road alot your perceived MG will drop as you are still running the engine but not really doing any distance so the numbers get messed up.

I'm off to Ullapool tonight and that 640 miles each way so that will be a good test of mway cruising MPG.

I would suggest that if you ride a lot of road and are not getting 300 miles to a tank you may have something wrong.

Mike

Tank does take 23 ltr. Filled up that much once she testing to see how far I can go on reserve. Keep it below 5k rpm and if the cat is out it'll do between 60 to 65 MPG. Take it very easy and you can get 70.
My tank neck is drilled.

Fridolin, I am sorry, most of what I've written is defined by the English sense of humour. I cant explain further, too much history.

I am familiar with the concept of high revs equates to high fuel consumption.
I was alluding to the different mentality when riding consistently above and below 5000 rpm. This differing mentality results in a considerably different fuel consumption, so anyone asking what the consumption's like will get one of two answers, its either low 60's MPG or its Low 50's depending on your enthusiasm. then theres the desert sand, where 40 MPG is a good day, ive not had the opportunity to expose the bike to this for extended distance

I can consistently get 62 MPG, but am challenging myself to get higher. I find it fairly daunting running out of fuel on a busy road on a motorbike, hence my reluctance to challenge it too far.

I am very surprised that the germans tollerate speedo inaccuracy (would have thought that 10% inaccuracy is an MOT fail)

Much written in jest for those that dont get it.
:)

Wrong side of the bed mate ???? Blimey.....:eusa_snooty:

Have you thought about a "speedo healer" its a gizmo that plugs in between the speedo and the sender and adjust the readout so it's dead accurate...

Might be worth a look....

http://www.bikersdiscountstore.co.uk...r-v4-pd-18.php

You can adjust the speedo after changing sprocket size as well.

My Speedo is bang on 5mph out at 70mph verified by my satnav.

I tend to bumble along at indicated 70mph which is actually 65mph, about 4000rpm I think.

My last mode of transport was a 4.0 litre supercharged Jag that used to return at very very best 21mph and at worst I saw 4mpg.

So compared to that the Tenere seems to run on fresh air....:043:

Since the odometer and the speedo works on the same signal and differs bye 5-10% you can't get both to be accurate.

My experience with current tires are that the odometer shows about 1.8% to much. That will of course change when the tire are worn down. The difference between a new and a bold tire is about 3%

When the tire are worn down the odometer will be accurate at some point before showing to little.

I'll just use my GPS for accurate speed readings when it is important ...