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Tim Cullis 15-10-09 00:01
Which heated grips and handlebar muffs?
 
I'm planning to winterise the Tenere and want to add heated grips. The obvious choice is Oxford, are there any others I should look at?

I will also try to fit the handlebar muffs off the 1200 GSA but if these don't fit does anyone know of any alternatives?

Tim

fozzy17 15-10-09 08:58
im running oxford they are ok not brilliant, on my last bike i rand ktm heated grips which come with spacer bars incase your running acerbis hangaurds, which was handy, they can be hard to get hold of though.

steveD 15-10-09 10:00
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tim Cullis (Post 108646)
I'm planning to winterise the Tenere and want to add heated grips. The obvious choice is Oxford, are there any others I should look at?

I will also try to fit the handlebar muffs off the 1200 GSA but if these don't fit does anyone know of any alternatives?

Tim
Hi Tim I run Oxford heated grips and over them I have a pair of Tucano muffs. These are fur lined and are excellent although I had to cut out one layer of fur!!!!! I only run with my thinnest gloves during the winter. They come half way up your ferearm and keep your hand very dry in the wet. They are quite big and to support the front I have cut down some KTM guards to make a bar around 50mm wide which stops the wind from moving the muffs or pressing them onto your levers. I have also installed an old pair of SRX handlebar weights as the muffs have a rubber bung that fits over the handlebar end. They costme abouit �60 buit are well worth it as personally I don't like huge great gloves and I've never had a pair that are totally waterproof.
The muffs themselves are very easy to take off as they velcro around your miror stalk and all of the switchgear.No pics, my apologies as the bike is still in the dealers!

zOU 15-10-09 10:06
I used to get the oxford hotgrips on my others bikes.

I mrealised this year that they're 75€ !!
I do not remember them being so expensive.

Other people on the forum have installed the symtec which allows to keep the original grip.

http://www.windingroads.co.uk/shop/p...d0611ea3290aad

deiaccord 15-10-09 10:32
I use the oxford grips and combined with some handguards and intermediate gloves commuted 1 hr on the motorway each way last winter. Temperatures went down to -4 without the windchill. If it went any colder I'd have to consider consider heated gloves or the muffs. The windchill is the real killer at those speeds though.

Also worth pointing out is that with that combo that summer gloves don't give enough insulation against the wind on the top of your hand and winter gloves insulate your hand from the heat in the grips to much wheras intermediates seem to strike a reasonable balance. For waterproofness for the length of journeys I do both my gore-tex gloves seem to do the job nicely at keeping the water out but then my cheapest gloves are �80 (a Bikers pair, with Alpinestar 365 X-trafit Gore-tex being my other main pair). I've recently switched to my intermetiate gloves from the alpinestars now that temperatures are often at 6 degrees celcius (43F) in the mornings!

The main reason I'm not using muffs is i'm concerned that should I have an accident that you can't get your hands off the bars quick enough as they'll be trapped by the muffs.

uncle ricky 15-10-09 11:32
Quote:
Originally Posted by deiaccord (Post 108682)
I use the oxford grips and combined with some handguards and intermediate gloves commuted 1 hr on the motorway each way last winter. Temperatures went down to -4 without the windchill. If it went any colder I'd have to consider consider heated gloves or the muffs. The windchill is the real killer at those speeds though.

Also worth pointing out is that with that combo that summer gloves don't give enough insulation against the wind on the top of your hand and winter gloves insulate your hand from the heat in the grips to much wheras intermediates seem to strike a reasonable balance. For waterproofness for the length of journeys I do both my gore-tex gloves seem to do the job nicely at keeping the water out but then my cheapest gloves are �80 (a Bikers pair, with Alpinestar 365 X-trafit Gore-tex being my other main pair). I've recently switched to my intermetiate gloves from the alpinestars now that temperatures are often at 6 degrees celcius (43F) in the mornings!

The main reason I'm not using muffs is i'm concerned that should I have an accident that you can't get your hands off the bars quick enough as they'll be trapped by the muffs.
Nothing wrong with being trapped in a Muff ;)

b8ppj 15-10-09 11:37
Quote:
Originally Posted by zOU (Post 108677)

Other people on the forum have installed the symtec which allows to keep the original grip.

http://www.windingroads.co.uk/shop/p...d0611ea3290aad
I have used windingroads for symtec heated grips for my ktm exc's (great when your wet through green laning in the depths of winter)and for soft lugauge, Top service and good quality kit :-)
If i buy a tenere the first thing i will fit is symtec heated grips

Worry Brother 15-10-09 12:12
Fitted the symtec on all my off roaders. Good quality kit with all the necessary fitting instructions. Great when wet through and v cold during the winter months

WB :)

theclowncrusty 15-10-09 16:35
I have just fitted the Oxford hotgrips and i am very happy with them. They are a bit pricey but to be fair they are a lot more sophisticated (spelt right?) than they used to be as now you get a four setting digital switch and voltage meetering to stop you having a flat battery.
Hope this helps.
Mark.
(Very fed up as i have mixed up the dates for the Dent meet and cant do it now)

stoic bloke 15-10-09 18:40
hi i fitted the sytecs and was not impressed and have now gone back to the hotgrips as they definately seem to work better. i have the ktm gaurds as i use the tenere all year round on a 50 mile commute . the oxford's came off my tengai though the temparture controller had failed due to water ingress so am currently using a flick switch and must get round to fitting a resistor to keep them cooler as they will get too hot after 10 minutes, not a problem faced with the symtecs though, warm not hot in that case :unibrow:

my 2p's worth stoic

scottnet 15-10-09 18:55
We used Winding roads for the money and the fact you can use any grips they work very well

n0ct0 15-10-09 20:31
Happy enough with my Oxford Hotgrips, �40 from eBay.

Stumpy 15-10-09 20:40
Tim

What muffs are you trying to fit. I fitted mine from my old 1200GS on the Tenere over the top of the Touratech handguards

Stumpy

maxwell123455 15-10-09 21:31
Dont have a tenere but got an XTR and happy with my oxford grips but only one of them is working now and think its something to do with the heat controller as its happened on my dads bike before, changed the controller with mine and worked fine

SingleMinded 15-10-09 21:34
After waisting 3 (three!) Oxford 'black-boxes' (the actual electronics) in 4 months, first one had the old type with rotary knob... which wasn't water tight. Second (newer type with pushbuttons) one just died. Third one (same type): buttons went lame...

... I gave up and went for a set of CLS-heat.

http://onlineshop.cls200.de/index.ph...eizgriffe.html

Typical German: a bit over-engineered with automatic ambient temperature compensation ... or whatever. Works OK, though I'd have liked a bit more power/heat. 41 Watt... and quite expensive €169,- (!) At least it looks rock solid and still works!
b.t.w. it came with .... Oxford grips!


HJ

colros 15-10-09 23:59
Tech & Muffs. But I like the sound of SteveD's with the velcro round the mirrors. Need to take the mirrors off to fit the Tec7 , will take a picture and post. :snooze[1]: sometime.

I have a pair of Oxford Hot hands Velcro overgrips. Too hot but reliable. Plan to go for the symantic under grips, found a few of the Enduro riders use them with no complaints.

Also have the gerbings headed full jacket, with trousers to match when it gets realy cold with the digital controller.

Just need double glazing for the visor.....:icon_cherry:

theclowncrusty 31-10-09 19:31
Hi, if you are fitting then new style Oxford Hotgrips, make sure you cable tie this connection......
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...y/DSCN3867.jpg

This will stop you having the re-connect it after pulling the wire to try and get a litle extra cable after moving the control mount on the bars....

This is a piccie of the new mounting point as i had to move it after fitting my SATNAV bag......
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l4...y/DSCN3869.jpg

Crusty:icon_biggrin:

wimpster 09-11-09 11:05
Have just fitted the Oxford hotgrips today, took about 1.5 hours to do, making sure all the cables had the best possible routes,etc,and boy am I impressed after todays ride to work, at one point I was considering turning the heat down they are so good!!!
Cost �50 and worth every penny!!

mac-cos 09-11-09 16:41
In case anyone was wondering goretex gloves (or similar) can let in water if used with heated grips as the membrane goes into reverse if the grips are hotter than the hand inside. Reason being the membrane lets moisture flow from the warm side to the cold side , one to worry about in the pishing rain just when you want them to be dry inside.

fozzy17 09-11-09 18:22
my oxford grips gave up the ghost yesterday, the control box is faulty only 5 months old and the bike has only done 2k so not happy bunny, ordered a new set and will try and send them back.

maxwell123455 09-11-09 20:25
Quote:
Originally Posted by fozzy17 (Post 111208)
my oxford grips gave up the ghost yesterday, the control box is faulty only 5 months old and the bike has only done 2k so not happy bunny, ordered a new set and will try and send them back.
This is a common thing mate im sorry to say, its happened to many including my dads heated grips, also he had a problem with his digitial ones (the type with two buttons he instead of the wheel) turning it self off when on low revs constantly, but nothing to do with the bike not charging as it was a V twin 1000cc so plenty of power on tick over. Emailed them and they just said it wasnt there product it must be the wiring to the bike!!!!

DickyC 09-11-09 20:26
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac-cos (Post 111200)
In case anyone was wondering goretex gloves (or similar) can let in water if used with heated grips as the membrane goes into reverse if the grips are hotter than the hand inside. Reason being the membrane lets moisture flow from the warm side to the cold side , one to worry about in the pishing rain just when you want them to be dry inside.
Gortex gloves are pointless on a motorbike anyway. Gortex, or the many other breathable fabrics, are designed to work in active environments. Rubberised over gloves are the best thing with normal gloves underneath. Once the wind is eliminated from the gloves even a wooly pair will work well. Lot cheaper than heated grips and without the associated power draw issues and the need to connect the otimate every night. Mind you I am also a bit of a tight arse!

deiaccord 09-11-09 21:27
Quote:
Originally Posted by mac-cos (Post 111200)
In case anyone was wondering goretex gloves (or similar) can let in water if used with heated grips as the membrane goes into reverse if the grips are hotter than the hand inside. Reason being the membrane lets moisture flow from the warm side to the cold side , one to worry about in the pishing rain just when you want them to be dry inside.
While true ive not actually had and realy problem with this in a years commuting. That said by the time its so cold I REALLY need the grips the windchill is so much the grips are hardly warmer than my hands anyway. More of a problem when there's only a mild chill IMO.

somclan 27-11-09 16:41
try these p uppies
 
http://www.aerostich.com/heated-grip-kit.html


I have used them for years... and check out the price

orangejohn 27-11-09 17:14
I've used Symtec heated elements under the std grips for about five months now without any probs. Easy to fit and work well. With Touratech handguards they make a big difference.


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